It’s always easy to blame others, but blame doesn’t often solve problems. It’s ridiculous to think that denouncing others on a website will make Netherlands or EU a better place.
What next? Is your wife annoying you? Forget Valentine’s Day – log on and denounce her!
Have you always disliked blonde hair? Denounce blondes!
Let’s get real.
I don’t know about you, but openness and tolerance, hard work and trusting others are my values. And I know that people who come to the Netherlands work hard and many of us depend on their contributions. That is not something to denounce or dismiss in such difficult times.
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Zo is het maar net…..
Laten we een pvv klachtenlijn oprichten. Kunnen we de NPD hier ook aangeven en hun leden
Thanks for the comment…tastes good… to lick our fingers by….greetz
I totally agree.
Thanks for your work!
What is served by the understatement ‘blame doesn’t often solve problems’ here? To blame someone else, as opposed to call upon one’s (including oneself) responsebility, never has solved any problem. Instead, blaming someone else always obstructs humane solutions, by creating additional complexity and noise to the underlying problem.
Blamings other can be understood as a non-emancipated outburst of former withheld frustration, though. Understanding the dynamics of this process can help in rewinding complexity and get right to the bottom of problems. Let’s consider applying latest socio-psychological insight to unravel these darkening noises in our public debate.
Let’s conquer our own prejudice to the ones blaming others and see them for what they are in the psychological framework: vulnerable people projecting their fears on other vulnerable people. Let’s continue by adressing the real fears of the people blaming others, and reach out for them a helping hand, as it becomes so obvious to us what is driving them. As well as it becomes so obvious to us what is holding them back in constructive debate.
Can we do this, sophisticated getting real?
I don’t know if I want to live in my own country anymore. Because of what PVV is doing. It’s disgusting!
All the time I have to explain my foreign friends that this is NOT me. That I’m not the stereotype Dutchman either, as a matter of fact I am not at all. But that my value for the freedom to be who you are is so strong. I WANT people to be different, no matter how annoying that can be sometimes.
And now this. All my pride of how succesfull we are in creating a nation that can manage all the different nationalities within our borders so succesfull once was so great. And now I have to defend myself against THIS!
My primary reaction to the whole of the PVV is SHAME ON YOU! I
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
Over the last year, there have been too many incidents where the prime-minister, Mark Rutte, has appeared weak in the face of Wilders’ agitations or lacking vision with regards to Europe. Although talented, he does urgently require some tutoring on both aspects. Having the courage to speak out instead of silent appeasing, whether it concerns the Queen or Muslims or Polish immigrants, should be the hallmark of a real statesman. Having and explaining a vision on Europe is also better than having to scramble and learn what Europe is actually about as he had to do in 2011.
It does reflect badly on your party. It does reflect badly on the Netherlands. Why not give him a call?
ZO is het maar net Nellie is rijp voor een bejaarden tehuis zij roept en herroept ,haar uitspraken zijn net als die van PIRAAT Hans van Baalen,van generlei waarde bovendien zijn personen uit het EU gezelschap niet bevoegd nationaal partijgedrag te veroordelen…Managua, 15 nov. Europarlementariër Hans van Baalen (VVD) heeft volgens de president van Nicaragua bij zijn bezoek aan het land hoge militairen gepolst over een mogelijke staatsgreep. Die beschuldiging uitte president Daniel Ortega vandaag op een overheidswebsite.Ortega hekelt Van Baalens bemoeienis met interne aangelegenheden van Nicaragua en noemde hem „een Hollandse piraat en een schurk”.
dear Neelie, on behalf of all the citizens in Holland who are still gratefull for the efforts of the Polish people in the past and nowadays I thank you for your comment against the PVV. It issad to see that our country slowly is sliding into intolerance. Where and when will it end?
dear Neelie, on behalf of all the citizens in Holland who are still gratefull for the efforts of the Polish people in the past and nowadays I thank you for your comment against the PVV. It is sad to see that our country slowly is sliding into intolerance. Where and when will it end?
Ja, je kunt inderdaad overal wel een meldpunt voor oprichten. Ieder meldpunt krijgt verkeerde bezoekers die niet serieus zijn te nemen. Dat maakt de serieuze meldingen niet minder waard. Het zou zo maar eens kunnen zijn dat burgers in Nederland die overlast van arbeidsmigranten uit Oost-Europa ondervinden zich door instanties als gemeente en politie niet serieus genomen voelen waardoor die overlast blijft voortbestaan. Al tien jaar heb ik last van verhuur vanmijn buurpand aan Afrikanen, Turken, Polen en nu Bulgaren. Tussendoor werden er wietplantjes gestald: 1 hennepknipperij en 2 hennepkwekerijen werden er opgerold. Er vond prostitutie vanuit het pand plaats en er was geweld en intimidatie. Zo had de eigenaar (nog steeds eigenaar) een eigen knokploegje. Ik werd ook zelf bedreigd. De keuken vloog er in de brand, er was dierenmishandeling, en met name de dagelijkse geluidsoverlast van schreeuwende mensen, ook in de tuin. De gemeente wil nog steeds doorgaan met dossieropbouw en geeft de eigenaar nog maar eens een nieuwe kans. Kijk, als goedopgeleide elite van West Europa kies je dan gewoon voor weggaan en ergens anders een huis kopen. Maar die luxe kan ik me niet veroorloven, al ben ik eerstegraads docent. Ik hou ook van mijn huis, het is een prachtige plek. Het is waar dat het meldpunt te makkelijk is, maar ja we leven in een tijd waarin alles makkelijk is gemaakt. Mijn style is het ook niet. Maar even makkelijk is het om te zeggen dat de mensen uit Oost-Europa alleen maar hard werkende mensen zijn . Dat is ook maar een deel van het verhaal. En helaas krijgen veel burgers al het gevoel dat hen slechts een deel van het verhaal wordt verteld om ons veilige leventje voort te leven. Totdat je opeens dat soort overlast van buren krijgt natuurlijk. Want dat wist ik ook niet van te voren. Dat is toch net wat anders dan alleen op wc’s zitten die door Roemenen of Bulgaren zijn schoongemaakt. Of profiteren van de lage prijzen van een Poolse stukadoor of de lekker goedkope groentes in de supermarkt. Niet alleen moeten Nederlanders bereid zijn de consequenties van alle die fijne dingen er bij te nemen. Hetzelfde geldt voor de overheid. De toestroom van bevolkingsgroepen om ons welvaartspeil te blijven garanderen moet wel begeleid gebeuren en daarbij heeft de overheid nu eenmaal een handhavingsplicht. Ik snap dat veel keurige Nederlanders het meldpunt heel smakeloos vinden maar ik heb er zo mijn gedachten over. Tja, dat krijg je ervan.
ik reageer zelden in dit soort debatten..maar nu een zeer groot compliment voor Neelie Kroes!
arie van den brand, voormalig lid tweede kamer groenlinks
until geert gets exactly what he wants anyone may get the effects here : http://www.numeris.com.ro/news.htm
I am from Hungary. Let’s put aside the differences between our nations, and unite against racism, imperialism and colonialism. I can’t believe that in the 21st century these people still have overseas colonies and still they want to teach others about democracy and media pluralism. These western colonialists are exploiting Eastern European workers. They rule Europe according to the “divide et impera” principle.
Thank you mr/mrs J.A.M. van Asten! Your story gives a bright insight of the underlying real problems. As well as your reflections prove a ‘get real’ sense in the more sophisticated way I was asking for in my former comment. It seems to me that your story could contribute even more to the international/EU debate when translated in English. Do you see a way to achieve this, and/or can I be of any help to you?
Actually, the wife of Mr. Geert Wilders is from Eastern Europe, from Hungary. Her name is Krisztina Márfai and she was a diplomat.
I am wondering how many Dutch women have lost their jobs in the red light district.
As a matter of fact, I LEFT what was “my” country. Because of the PVV. Because of – as a commenter above pointed out – I had to explain to my non-Dutch friends, over and over again, “PVV ? That is not me”. Because of my grandfather’s inheritance, an inheritance of WWII-resistance, of not putting up with boots that walk over the faces of the weakest.
That is why I live a major, German-speaking city now. Where living and working as a stranger, where BEING a stranger, is not something held against you. Where there is a very refreshing wind of… acceptance of other people, of their work, of their needs and, heck yes, of their contributions to common life.
That is why I shall not, I repeat: I SHALL NOT returnn to the Netherlands as long as the PVV has a scrap of power there.
Resist !
@magyari
I assume to be a citizen of the world. As such I would not be acquainted to differences between nations. I admit there exist differences between ideologies. Geert W. insults us all East-Europeans. He simply makes no difference between a beggar living in Holland and a pillar of the society (meaning: hard-working tax-payer) living somewhere in Eastern Europe.
@marosy
I like women, no matter their origin. As a courtesy to myself I don’t think we should lower us so far to remind Geert of his wife.
@Jan van Oort
Please take it the lighter way – mean individuals, no matter their origin – live in all places, all cities, all countries. You cannot escape their influence. Therefore we all should fight them – not ignore them, not running away.
John 8:32 / What is Geert’s truth anyway ?
No. Fascism is never to be taken “lightly”. Mean individuals do net, by the sheer fact of their being mean, sum up to fascism. And I DO fight the PVV – through this kind of posts. Through active publications.
sure, Jan, here’s the active publication: http://www.numeris.com.ro/news.htm
and more is yet to come
question 4 all:
is there another “Black Tulip” operation planned ? for Poles, Magyars, Romanians and all other East-Europeans ?
maybe Geert wanna be a lord-of-war implementing RAWAGEDE genocide for all East-Europeans ?
he surely can be treated, if u know what I mean
have a look at http://www.numeris.com.ro/holland_pvv_payback.htm