There’s been a huge amount of interest in my announcement of a “no disconnect” strategy, to improve internet freedom around the world. In particular, there has been a lot of interest in my choice to invite Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg to assist me with this work.
Human Rights, including the right to communicate freely, runs through everything we do here in the EU. Online communications is no different.
So I am determined to use the wake-up call of the Arab Spring to increase the positive role of technology in the spread of democracy. In 1982 in Syria, the Hama massacre was hidden for months. But in 2011, video-sharing services helped us be aware of the regime’s abuses, and take action. While in Egypt, social media tools allowed people to by-pass state-run media. Everyone with a mobile could be a journalist.
We have been talking to experts, policymakers, and activists themselves about what we can do to support this.
We have called this work our “no disconnect” strategy, because when peaceful protests are being planned, connectivity is everything. Communications networks must stay switched on.
I spoke in more detail on the four strands of actions we need to take last Friday at a major international conference in The Hague: technological tools; education about opportunities and risks for activists; high-quality intelligence, and cooperation.
There are many ideas out there that could form the basis of a solution. For example, deploying “Internet survival packs” to activists: easy-to-use software or hardware packages which could help people to bypass censorship and counter surveillance. And we could stimulate EU companies to develop self-regulatory approaches (or join existing ones, such as the Global Network Initiative) so we stop selling despots their ICT tools of repression. Equally, hosting support could help prohibited content reach its audience (blogs and videos for example).
I myself am working closely with Cathy Ashton and the External Action Service. Already in the area of media freedom, I have asked advice from a number of wise and experienced people, including, by the way, Herta Däubler-Gmelin, former German Minister of Justice. And I’m aware of the importance the European Parliament attaches to internet freedom as an essential part of our approach to protect human rights.
But we will need to involve all sectors, and include a lot of ideas. And that’s where Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg comes in.
As he himself has acknowledged, if anyone understands the power of the internet, and its power to hold authorities to account, it is Karl-Theodor. Anyone who has worked with Karl-Theodor – and I myself have done so closely when he was German Economics Minister – would recognise his great political abilities. But what I also admire in him is his fresh and international outlook. As someone who led two ministries relevant to this work – including being in charge of armed and security forces – I know he can have the essential conversations and new ideas that we need to help those who are suffering right now because their online (and offline) rights are not respected.
If you are wondering why Karl-Theodor and not someone else, I would say that I am looking for talent, not saints. I am asking him to do an important job; nothing more, nothing less. I live in the future, not the past.
I’ll report back when we have some progress to show for our efforts. Necessarily, some of what we do will have to be discreet. But equally, it is important that the initiative has a profile – to raise the awareness by all those who can contribute, and by all those who stand to benefit.
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Congratulations for choosing such a credible and trustworthy partner.
I really hope that you have a great sense of humour as the writer of the comment above has irony.
Mrs Commissioner, your talking about living in the future and not the past is senseless to put it mildly.
If you call your new helper talented you are evaluating his past performance. He is totally untalented as he does not understand that free speech is about stating your ideas and respecting other people’s ideas by QUOTING them and not stealing them.
Dear M. Kroes,
it’s great that you judge people by what they will be able to do in the future. But German people still have big problems with Guttenberg, because he is not able to talk honestly about the past. Why should we believe in a man, who is not able to stand up for his mistakes? How can we trust him?
short answer: we can’t
I’m utterly disgusted by your choice of the failed politician, cheater and liar zu Guttenberg. He has no qualification whatsoever that would justify his nomination. This is a disgrace for the European Commission and will undermine the approval of the EU institutions by the European people(s) even further.
Sure he has. His family sponsored the whole University which in turn gave him his “Magna cum Laude”.
He voted for internet censorship in Germany, so he probably is an expert on that topic.
Looks like EU is no better than our local politicians.
Well, it was even “summa cum laude”, i.e., “with highest honor”, and all that for stealing at least about two thirds of the bulk text: http://de.guttenplag.wikia.com/wiki/GuttenPlag_Wiki
Dear Mrs. Kroes.
I hope you heard about the ‘internet stop sign’ law, which was introduced last year in Germany and canceled some weeks ago. It was a censorship law with no effect to those crimes it was targeted to. Karl Theodor has been a big supporter of it and has even accused those who opposed it to advocate child abuse.
How can you take this person with such double standards in freedom and civil rights to fight for them?
Speaking of talents, I *strongly* suggest that you consider asking Mr Jacob Appelbaum, @ioerror on Twitter, to join the initiative as an expert adviser. Mr Appelbaum is a stong advocate for ethics & human rights and an open internet.
Furthermore, he has also practical working experience and expertise in bringing mobile internet to disaster-struck areas, e.g Iraq and New Orleans in ther aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
It would also be worth taking a look at the Telecomix collective and asking them to provide expertise, as @mmu_man had suggested to you on Twitter.
Choosing Mr Guttenberg as an adivsor for this project threatens to overshadow the good intentions and to undermine the credibility of the No Disconnect programme, in my humble opinion.
Concerning the export of surveillance technology, it is totally unacceptable to call for the industry to impose self-regulatory rules on themselves.
Dual-use technology is obviously always difficult to handle when it comes to exports but when human-rights are most likely to be violated and political opponents could potentially be oppressed, there’s is only one viable solution:
Creating a black-list of states who fail to meet the EU’s standards on human rights, setting up an export ban on surveillance technology to those countries and threatening member states who do not comply with those rules with severe sanctions.
Export restrictions similar to those on weapons and arms should also apply to surveillance and interception gear. The EU member states would not export arms to Syria due to human rights abuses so why should it be acceptable to equip Syria with technology to allow spying on their citizens (and notably political opponents)?
Anything less than an export ban would be considered to be hubris and double-standards by the EU and its member states.
Dear Anne,
I still consider that having a qualified plagiarist as an adviser (Mr. zu Guttemberg, although I do not fully agree with his nomination) gives more credibility to Commission´s actions than bringing along to high level international meetings an adviser who supports machines in Arse Elektronica (Mr. Appelbaum: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2007/10/so-who-wants-to/)
Can you think for a second of the press reactions if a public institution entrusts certain duties to someone who volunteers to perform live during a sex fair??? Please, get informed before making recommendations to Commissioners. Not all what glitters is gold.
And as regards blocking of exports, have you ever considered that alternative supply of such technology will not cease and that the US blocking policies only lead to the development of indigenous technology over which EU will have no control whatsoever? (example: if EU does not deliver there, India, China, Israel, etc, will do so). Therefore your solution is only partly effective. Either global measures are taken, either this would continue to be the circus it is now.
Regards
It’s nice that you are looking for talent, but is talent enough? Would the Commission employ anyone just for the “talent”? I have not yet seen a single concours of EPSO just checking for talent.
On the other hand, as a long time university lecturer, I have seen many talented students who – in addition to their “talent” and their “fresh and international outlook” – also developed expertise in internet issues – could I direct them to you for a similar high profile position? Or is expertise something that would stand in the way of acting as an adviser?
I trust that you find Mr zu Guttenberg to be a “talent” (and I don’t care that he is “not a saint”); but the logic for appointing him seems severely flawed (“if anyone understands the power of the internet, and its power to hold authorities to account, it is Karl-Theodor”): Would you consider appointing a convicted criminal as an adviser on Justice and Home affairs and then argue: “if anyone understands the power of law enforcement, it is XY, who served 10 years in jail”?
I am sorry to say, but appointing someone who has not (at least not yet) developed a personal reputation as an expert – not just a “talent” – on internet freedom for this position seriously damages the credibility of the whole program.
Is not straight that mrs kroes choose a talent , because herself is a unbeliefer
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but talent much comes from Good God power ,.
right?:)
I live in the future, not the past.
You keep mentioning his political success (which would have happened in the past, if it only existed), but when it comes to his failure you prefer not to face it. You two will become a great team.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
I agree with the previous comments. Mr. zu Guttenberg is not credible in the eyes of a big part of the German population.
Of course, everyone needs a second chance but not before he has confessed and recognized his trespasses. In the case of Mr. zu Guttenberg this did not happen – rather he keeps on denying it and uses contrived elusions.
I fear that your good and ambitious initiative will be overshadowed by your choice to work with Mr. zu Guttenberg and will be a permanent strain.
As a creedal European citizen I would like to ask you, to rethink your decision.
What an appalling farce. Delegating the issue of “internet freedom” to a fraudster like Guttenberg, who used to be a staunch supporter of setting up an infrastructure for internet censorship in Germany, will only hurt the cause.
By the way, if the EU is concerned about freedom of speech, it should have a closer look at its own member states (Hungary, for example) before educating the rest of world.
At the end of the day there remains the question why an EU commissioner from the Netherlands chooses to support the political comeback of the German “baron” Guttenberg. You start to wonder which networks of social power are at work here. Talking about democracy…
Sorry, but making Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg lead this initiative will only assure its failure. Any civil right activist with a little bit of self esteem will boycott him right from the beginning and the only sector he will be able to reach out are “security” software providers that are looking for an easy way to make quick money.
MOGiS (a german organization of victims of sexual abuse opposing internet blocking) just made me remember that Mr zu Guttenberg has been one of the most outspoken proponents of Internet Blocking in Germany.
http://mogis-verein.de/2011/12/10/is-mr-zu-guttenberg-the-right-person-to-talk-about-internet-freedom/
As it was pointed out he suggested that opponents of the blocking must be sex offenders. Just how can this man honestly defend internet freedom?
Perhaps you should have asked somebody from EDRi http://www.edri.org/ or LQDN http://www.laquadrature.net/ to help with their assistence in your endeavour.
They at least can be believed .. KT zu Guttenberg can’t .. He even cheated in his PhD.
“As someone who led two ministries relevant to this work – including being in charge of armed and security forces – I know he can have the essential conversations and new ideas that we need to help those who are suffering right now because their online (and offline) rights are not respected.”
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Well, unless the EU is planning to achieve “internet freedom” by military actions.
There are so many real Internet activists out there, and you had to choose a notorious cheater and liar (convicted for cheating on his PhD!), and an opponent of Internet freedom (his ministry wrote the Internet censorship law known as “Zugangserschwerungsgesetz”) ? It appears you are not at all serious about your goals.
In my oppinion, Mr. Guttenberg ist a terrible choice. As already said in other posts, he was one of the politicians in Germany who massively defended the position to establish Internet surveillance and blocking of Internet access in order to prevent crimes. In these days, he made comments on these things in a way that indirectly accused net activists of supporting criminals if they were not willing to support the course of him and his party. I think people who consider the net as part of their life and who remember this time will not trust someone like him.
Plus, he cheated and betrayed and I can not see any honest sign that he learned from his mistakes – he still is trying to find excuses, he accuses others for his own failures and stabs the people who supported him in the back – like he did when he was an active politician (and even before the whole Guttenplag affair)
I think someone like him should not get responsibility at all, but exspecially not in an area where he disappointed and insulted people so much like in the whole Internet / net activism topic.
at least he is a good liar
I would’nt say he’s a good liar. A good lie is not recognized as a lie but in the case of Mr. Guttenberg his lies were fairly obvious.
Indeed he is a liar. But just one who keeps lying rather than admitting the truth.
How unfortunate that Guttenberg gets all the headlines. Your nomination to the Commission for the Unmasking of political riffraffs went largely unnoticed.
I wonder, Commissioner Kroes, if it is of any concern to you Mr. K.T. zu Guttenberg works as a lobbyist for CSIS.org, as your staff listed in the press announcement. CSIS is an American lobby organisation specialised on defense industries and notorious cold war extremism, and it is not listed in the EU transparency register.
Don’t you see a conflict of interest here? A dissident who accepts technical assistance from a person working with CSIS would be domestically charged for collaborating with US intelligence.
What may be considered a disgrace for Germans, that a former Minister now works as a lobbyist for a foreign defense group in the United States, would result in criminal liabilities for the affected dissident. Formally there would be nothing objectionable about such prosecutions, in particular as funding sources of CSIS are not disclosed.
In addition to that does Mr Guttenberg meet homeland security requirements of the European Union? Where professional security checks performed on him and CSIS.org prior to his appointment?
Giving a corruption a better face?
Sorry, I seem unable to understand your intention with this announcement. If you want to discredit your work and the EU commission you are doing it right, and while this would be in line with the work and public view on your organisation, it somehow doubt this was what you are aiming for.
How is Guttenbergs stand on censorship laws regarding internet access?
Especially those who use secret lists to block access and elude any public control?
To name one example, we could use the law his own ministry proposed in 2009 in Germany.
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz
How can somebody who has clearly positioned himself on the side of state control over liberty and freedom promote the “no disconnect strategy” vs the government of other states? Where is the credibility in this history? Which internet activist would ever trust him?
A personal statement on this change of attitude would be MOST welcome!
You’re not interested in the past, ok.
How about the present, then?
At the moment there’s Mr zu Guttenberg’s book on sale where he admits that he can’t be held responsible for his doings because he can’t organise his work.
What a talent, indeed!
This strategy is bound to fail like everything Mr. zu Guttenberg touches.
His access blocking law has been nullified by the German Parliament a few days ago. Thanks to many people who spoke up against that law we have more freedom in that country now. Another failure for the talented Mr. zu Guttenberg.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Power
Access Blocking is No Disconnect
Sorry to say that, but your choice is in no way justifiable. It’s a slap in the face of every honest person on this planet.
She saw the demand for KTvuz Googleberg in a higher force , the almighty stars: http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/287/OPMERKELIJK/article/detail/2437064/2011/05/25/Bram-Peper-Astrologe-adviseerde-Neelie-Kroes.dhtml
Dear Neelie,
with such a “human resources” choice, I would expect a word or two about Mr. (I will most certainly not title him Dr.) Guttenbergs credibility. Especially why he has regained your credibility when he has lost his at least in Germany. Either there is complete lack of at least mediocre people for EU officials, or this choice has reasons that are hidden behind the curtain. For me, you severly damaged the credibility of the European Comission as trustworthy institution and there is no way you can regain it as long as this person is part of your team.
kind regards,
Have you ever thought how this nomination must hurt all the computer scientists in renowned European universities, who are both experts (and not just talents) in the Internet topic, and who have written their promotional thesis all by themselves, through hard labour, instead of stealing it from the Internet?
Do you think you (!) can _ever_ enter a university again without beeing booed?
Dear Neelie,
just go. Give up your job and get lost. You’re a complete failure, which you have amply proven with your latest fail by choosing that cheater and liar Guttenberg for a job for which he is not qualified in the least. You’re a shame for the EU and for all of us. Go and ask your astrologers or any of the other idiots you apparently ask for advice, even they will tell you that this time your idiocy has gone too far. GO! OUT! We’re fed up with people like you who make big bucks on the taxpayers’ dime and don’t have the faintest idea how to do the job they’ve been appointed to. People like you are the reason why so many citizens have no more faith in politicians and in the EU.
do we have 1. April? The thing with Gutenberg is a joke? a liar !!
Hi,
I hope that you consider to reverse your decision. It’s ridiculous to chose such an untrusted person for such a job.
Unfortunately, Mr. Guttenberg hasn’t the standing to refrain from taking this job as well.
From my point of view, this function won’t be accepted in the european public.
Regards
You asked for it.
You shall receive.
Expect us!
There is a video of that press conference on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elWyreB2mxk
Strangely enough Mr Guttenberg seems to promote the very same infrastructure used in undemocratic countries for dual use in our (so called) democratic countries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elWyreB2mxk#t=654s
How can anybody dare to call that a push for internet freedom?
He seems to have not learned from the German discussion on blocking.
Mr. Guttenberg copied the entire introduction of his PhD Thesis, and he *still denies* that he copied it by intent. Seriously, which talent do you need, not to know where the *first sentence* of your PhD thesis came from ?
Do you need more of that kind of talent ?
in real life, con men and cheaters are being tried and punished – in Brussels and Strassbourg, they get promoted (“Dr.” Silvana Koch) and awarded with recognition and , most probably, with well-paid consulting positions (“Dr.” Googleberg).
how about this instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering
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most stupid decision ever, my congrats!
You’ve got a weird sense of humour, Mrs. Kroes.
is being a narcistic, upper nobility the right qualification for getting an influentual job in brussels?
*omg .. i cant believe this* … electing today is like casting pearls before swines.
This is why people hate the EU. Incompetent arogant ass holes falling the career steps up no matter how much they lie or act criminal. Putting Von Guttenberg in such a position is even for a conserverative a very bad move. It smeels terrible – please rethink your decision.
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You must be a humorous person, because that can only be a joke.
What a wise and brilliant decision! Karl Theodor is the Lichtgestalt of the german Politics, he is the greatest man i know in german politics. Thank you for bringing him back on the stage! Oh he is so brilliant, good looking and intelligent. This is wonderful.
Who is Gutenberg? I live in the future too, not the past.
you’re kidding right?
dr. copy and paste guttenberg?
what happens to our world? abused by our leaders.. be ashamed of yourself
Atleast you have indeed hereby proven that there is no democrativ process in the EU.
It’s 1984 Doublethink at it’s best: you say you chose Guttenberg for more Internet-Freedom – and he will be deploying a censorship-system. While he couldn’t do that going through the german democratic process, he will now push for the whole EU. And you think that’s not censorship, “’cause it’s for the kids, eh”, but also you wouldn’t mind if there are some “misidentifications etc.”. See? – Doublethink.
He is just a boy acting in favor of the “elite”, pushed into position like in a chess game – as he is just a figure for the crowd. The real actors are not to be seen, though hidden in plain sight.
It really is obvious. Aks yourself, why would anyone need to have a censorship-system? Why would they need to press you in a form and filter anyone not fitting? Capitalism is crashing for good, big chance people realize the scam in the system and don’t wan’t it back. They may even hang the scammers.
Scammers or Banksters or whatever.. money/power corrupted people (and the ones in charge of course) now really power up their defenses (mind control, as it worked so long to make people believe there is a way to pay back interest without “anotherone biting the dust”.) – but the machine is already broken.
It can’t be fixed.
You cannot reverse knowledge.
Freedom can’t be censored nor stopped.
The beast weakens itself by it’s own weight as it needs to feed a lot and fast.
The feeding will stop.
Shame on you Mrs Kroes!
This “distinguished Statesman” K.T Googleberg has not the required knowledge. One is NOT an expert for internet and communitions by being an expert in using ctrl + c and ctrl + v!!!
Your decision is ridiculous!
And again, shame on you!
So, a person who misused the “internet” to cobble together his PhD and who was forced out of office because people are still free to use the internet for research, publicity is suppossed to strengthen exactly that freedom? A person who is also associated with organisations and people fighting exactly against that kind of freedom is the right “talent” for this job? I am sure you could not have done yourself, the organisation and any other associated with the European Union a worse deal.
Mr. Guttenberg as a Assistent for European Internetpolitic? Thats why i distrust European politics!
Angela Merkel: I didn’t hire a scientific advisor but a Minister.
Neelie Croes: I am looking for talent, not saints.
Angela’s approach didn’t work …
Political disdecision.
Is there a sense in feeling embarrassed for both of you while you obviously do not?
In a better world all this would just be a joke!
The EC is already having a serious problem, as according to the view of many people, it lacks democratic legitimation.
So, you are not looking for saints, but for talented people? Germans won’t accept the nomination of Mr zu Guttenberg for this post. He copied almost his whole thesis, and still claims this was not indented, but happened by mistake due to his chaotic way or work organization.
So, either you are engaging a fraudster (that’s what most people think) or someone totally unable to work in an organized manner. Both is not acceptable for something called European Commision.
If you need someone to copy from Google, get a student for 10 Euro/h.
You are not looking for saints, but European citizens are requesting honest people in public positions. Yes, we know you don’t care, as you are not in need of those people to reelect you – see the first sentence regarding democratic legitimation of the EC.
Hello,
sorry, for my bad english!
But i think is it a very nice show in Europe to let a such liar get such a position.
Mr. Guttenberg was the person who has written the german law for censorship in the internet.
Regards
Thomas
It’s a great idea to engage Guttenberg as adviser for Copy & Paste… ehhm: for Internet Freedom.
Another great idea would be to engage Berlusconi as adviser for mistreated minors.
Note: Connectivity ist everything. And you are looking for talents, not saints!
Thank you very much for choosing a convicted cheater and liar for that job. Good choice, he fits perfectly into the Commission !
Mrs. Kroes,
resign immediately, please! Choosing horrible Mr. zu Guttenberg as new European Union’s adviser concerning freedom of the internet is not only disappointing, but absurd and disgusting, too. It clearly shows that you are not at all qualified for your job. You’re indeed a complete failure!
yes, we germans are world champions in exporting all kind of good things… be happy with this charming guy, somehow he reminds me of Gilderoy Lockhart in Harry Potter.
Dear Mrs. Kroes
I feel uncomofortable with your choice, making Mr. Guttenberg a Spokesman for you campaign. Supporting Human rights by using the internet is an important thing, but your intention steps behind the will to support Mr. Guttenberg starting his comeback as politician. I’am very glad that europe is well connected to the internet, so that it could be discovered that Mr Guttenberg is a liar.
Looking at the main target, i hope that your next decisions are made more wisely, so that your
…campaign will become more trustworthy.
I can’t believe this. 1st april hoax?
Well, here’s one politican who knows about the internet. She MUST be trolling …
Dear Mrs Kroes,
nominating Mr. Zu Gutenberg to fight for Internet rights is a slap in the face of those who really do so. It’s sad to see that the EU seems to be collecting politicians that are no longer wanted in their own countries. Please consideer revoking this decision!
Dera Mrs. Kroes,
I’m really disappointed of you. You want Guttenberg for a job. I really thought about talking of the same person? He is really a shame for people doing their PhD. I’m actually in the way of doing my PhD in science and know what hard and especially time-consuming part in my life this is and will be! So Mr. Guttenberg lied and betrayed not whole Germany. And even now he is denying this fact.
So if you put such “personality” in any position of the EU, I really loose my faith in any action of the EU. You don’t think being in a position in the EU is first of character and not qualification?
Incredible! A convicted liar and cheater and notorious supporter of Internet censorship, whose wife also co-hosted a German TV show in which alleged would-be child abusers on the Internet were exhibited to the public with no judge or jury, becoming the EU’s top “Free Internet Activist”?
Ridiculous and embarrassing!
Little political favors among friends? Why not destroy what little respect for EU institutions is left among the EU’s citizens, if that’s what it takes…
I personally hope the Arab states will deploy THEIR international anti-corruption task force to Europe soon. It’s about time!
Promoting censorship and lying and cheating about your PhD does not an internet freedom expert make. Not even a talent. Slap in the face of all honest experts, and a running joke citizens will laugh about for years to come – all the way to the voting booth.
how embarrassing must it be for internet activists in oppressive regimes to be “consulted” by someone who deliberately plagiarizes his phd thesis from the internet, keeps lieing to the public about it, and even lacks the dignity and self-insight to stop digging the hole he is trapped in.
and, even worse: this is a slap in the face for all those who take real risks to voice their opinion, and an invitation to authoritarian regimes worldwide to point their fingers at the double standards and the obvious disregard of qualifications of the eu commission.
to quote from: http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/k-t-zu-guttenberg-csis-no-disconnect-strategy/
The heated press conference (on video) indicates how her choice completely distracts from the substance of her proposal. …
For his role Mr. zu Guttenberg just receives travel compensation from the EU which leads us to question what special role CSIS takes in the project. According to Kroes spokesperson Ryan Heath CSIS is not officially behind the project, however, it was listed as zu Guttenberg’s affiliation at the European Commission press conference. ..
Also it has this link to the CSIS’ tax form: http://www.scribd.com/doc/75485589/2010-521501082-072887c6-9
btw: CSIS seems not be listed by the eu lobby register
Why should the taxpayer cover Herr Baron’s travel expenses? Why give him a platform to make propaganda for himself or his wife’s filtering ideas? What did you get in return?
best satire in month – admit this is a hoax already.
Congratulations on choosing someone who supported the attempt of installing censorship-mechanisms in germany and who fails to really listen to the internet-community…. Big thumbs-down…
With all due respect, Mrs. Kroes, but… you must be kidding!
There is no shortage of qualified people (MOGiS for instance) for your ambitious project if you’re serious about it.
Mr. zu Guttenberg is but a thoroughbred impostor and charlatan. He’s primarily known as “copycat” and didn’t yet develop one single political idea of his own.
This man is all front and no substance!
To make matters worse, Mr. zu Guttenberg strongly argues in favour of Internet blocking in order to allegedly fight so-called “child porn”, i. e. [material of] documented child abuse. (Some people above provided links worth checking out.)
We all know perfectly well where such measures lead: the establishment of censorship with all its devastating impact on freedom of expression and society itself. Nowadays, we should know better, shouldn’t we? Personally, I consider it outrageous that a German politician like Mr. zu Guttenberg openly advocates censorship—under the pretext of “crime reduction” or war on terror whatsoever. Didn’t this man learn any lessons from former regimes like the GDR or the Third Reich? I don’t think so.
If you don’t recognize why the decision you took is fundamentally wrong, do you also consider recurring to Mr. Putin or Mr. Jiabao as external advisors? Frankly speaking, it would make little difference, because what you are about to do is like setting a fox to keep the geese: You will do a great disservice to the cause you are trying to promote!
The two German ministries you are referring to, will remember KTzG for a long time. Have fun.
Dear Commissioner Kroes,
How can reward dishonesty? Where’d did you get the audacity to insult us? How do you expect us to trust you? Drop the ‘No’ in your Disconnect project because you clearly are out of touch.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
sorry form y words: but are you completely mad to announce somebody like Guttenberg for this post? Guttenberg who is a liar and counterfeiter, who betrayed the German educational system and does not want to admit it?
You were saying that he has talent. Talent for what? For lying? Betraying? What does qualify such an asshole to be in such a position? NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING!!! What a clue has this person of Internet technology? Don’t betray yourself and Europe’s (and in particular German) citizens by announcing such stupidities!!! If you consider this person to be qualified for this post, then a group of 11 moles is also qualified for representing the Netherlands in the next football world cup!!!
It is unbelievable how demoralized the EU has to be to employ such an idiot!!! This person who betrayed the German educational system BY PURPOSE should now be employed by the European Union and (also) payed by German tax money???? UNBELIVABLE, Mrs. Kroes, ABSOLUTELY UNBELIVABLE!!!
Best regards for a brighter future with corruption and washing each others hands!!!
terrible mistake, you will regret it…you just ruined your reputation
This must be a cruel joke.
STOP GUTTENBERG !!!
There is also a very nice and funny aspect about this glorious choice of Mrs. Kroes:
hahahahahahahahahahaha
The Guttenplag Wiki will not get bored
I am already looking forward for many new exciting “discoveries” in the written works of this Übertalent!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Why? Did you choose Mr. Guttenberg? The German Bundestag has an “Enquete Commission Internet and digital Community” with a lot of different and talented people, like Ansgar Heveling, Jimmy Schulz, Aydan Özoguz, Tabea Rößner, Halina Wawzyniak and so on.
Please explain the people why you choose the biggest liar, who always tried to take control above the net for such a job?
Mr. Guttenberg was in order for the Ministry of Economy and Technology for 8(!) months, and for the Ministry of Defense for 17(!) months, That is really an expirienced talent!!!
What’s next?
Silvio Berlusconi works for Feminist Movement?
Ms Kroes
“I can say that my list of mistakes in life is quite long” – this is how the Vice President of the European Commission justifies appointing zu Guttenberg? You really help the EU gain more trust and credibility!
I am just amazed at how narrow-minded some of these comments are.
So unforgiving and self-centred. Say what you want about zu Guttenberg, but he is giving up his time to help people who are really suffering. “Anne” is just about the only person who has mentioned useful ideas about how to help those people, so she gets my thumbs up.
Virtually all the rest is sanctimonious, moral complaining that is irrelevant to the issue at hand. I think most people in most countries would wonder why people here are making such a fuss. And the people we are trying to help would be really grateful to have the chance to complain away on a blog like this.
Did the commenters ever consider that angle?
Well then, if moral complaining is “irrelevant”, then tell us something relevant:
What is the actual qualification of Mr. zu Guttenberg for this high-profile position?
Personally I hold it like a famous TV news anchor on public German television. Mr. zu Guttenberg is just as qualified as an Internet expert as a moth is qualified as an expert on lightbulbs.
Congrats on choosing a politician whos party was responsible for DNS-blocking access to the internet in germany, the federal govs illegal trojan spy software and connection/geo tracking for all ISPs.
Great idea to get that guy to promote a “free internet”. Idiots.
Ms. Kroes -
To provide a bit of background: I did my Ph.D. in the UK – and remained a convinced european throughout. All the time I argued on every possible occasion for the european ideas and values, trying to get across what the EU could be and achieve for its citizens – which is not an easy thing to do in the UK if you are of german origin. Like other researchers, I worked hard to apply for some EU-grants and funding. We were examined, reviewed and evaluated, time and again. Collaborating with fellow scientists from many countries vividly demonstrated to me how things should and could be like in the future. Later I supervised students who managed to produce brilliant original research despite not being funded by a wealthy family and some even having to support children on their stipend. (Just putting KTs lame excuses into context here). Especially among the scientific community, can you now *possibly* imagine what damage todays news are doing, calling on Mr. Guttenberg to contribute ‘ideas’ to human rights and civil liberties on the internet?
Or, are you of all people trying to tell us the ‘eurosceptics’ were right all along?
Is this supposed to be some practical joke?
For many people this is no laughing matter. No more.
Nevertheless, I sincerely do hope you find a way out of this awful mess you got us into – there is far more than your own credibility at stake here.
This is simply a slap in the face of any honest man or woman in the EU. And for every taxpayer.
You cannot get a high-profile job for the Commission with honesty and labour. No, simple stealing from others – and even being caught with it – is the ticket to such a platform. Appalling.
ich mag den auch nicht
was kt aware of kairos this time? lucky one, he is.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
You gained a lot of sympathies of online entrepreneurs with your no-disconnect strategy. But the hope for honest and forward looking strategy has been spoiled by your choice of Mr. Guttenberg. A liar and a cheater won’t help the cause of an open net of trust. Your cause will also be harmed by Mrs. Guttenberg’s Boulevard TV Show advocating net censorship under the label of fighting child pornography.
Please disconnect your ties with this awkward ex PhD – there is plenty of talent in the EU and I’m sure you will easily find much better replacement
But you do know that Mr Guttenberg and his Wife tried to introduce censorship two years ago?
Is that’s what makes him a “talent” ?
This is simply the sheer arrogance of power. The message is well understood: Internet freedom in EU member states is dispensable at best, more likely to be disposed of rather sooner than later, in full concordance with Guttenberg’s world view.
You only have to take a look at Hungary’s abolition of the freedom of the press to understand why and how a purely antidemocratic body like the Commission handles freedom issues. They set up phony PR campaigns, but when becomes necessary to take some real action to fight loss of freedom, they mainly fall silent.
Freedom is nothing that the Commission could be fond of, free people might ask questions about the democratic legitimation of the Commission itself…
“No disconnect”? Does this mean the French will have to abolish the HADOPI law?
I suggest to ask George W. Bush if the position of an advisor for international rights is getting vacant. I also heard a certain Silvio Berlusconi is looking for a new job. What about making him an advisor for female rights. He has plenty of experience!
Seriously, making von Guttenberg your advisor shows that you badly need one. But choosing him also shows that you are certainly not aware of his personality. He’s close to the worst candidate that you good pick.
It’s unbelievable. A man who has enforced the construction of an internet cenrsorship system in Germany and who is a liar and cheater shall become an advisor for internet freedom?
Sorry Mrs Kroes, but this is the biggest nonsense I have read in the last years.
If Mr Guttenberg has a little bit integrity and hnour left, he will immediately reject your offer…
Very strange… Why have you deleted some critical (non insulting) comments from yesterday that already have been “approved” by the moderators of this blog? This is censorship, too. Makes this whole thing even a bigger farce and failure… Strange concept of free speech on the internet here. Ah, now I get what you really want to do.
Not aware that any comments have been deleted. This would not be the policy of this blog. Do you have any more details?
Guttenberg left the Ministry of Defence in chaos. He abolished compulsory military service without thought of the consequences. In addition to his other obvious mistakes, he has no talent as a politician …
One of the things I like about the Internet is its collective memory, not only expressed in great projects like Wikipedia, but also in user-generated discussions. For example the main stream media in Germany never mentions that our current finance minister Dr. Schäuble was involved in one of the biggest party financing scandals of Germany and 100000 DM disappeared in his vicinity. Yet in user-generated discussions about him this fact would frequently pop up. In the case of Mr. Guttenberg we have a similar irony: A big proponent of Internet censorship laws in Germany is now presented as the defender of Internet freedom by the EU commission. Most main stream media will not connect the dots, but the users posting here before me vehemently point that out. I think appointing Mr. Guttenberg is a clear sign of not understanding how the Internet and the information age works and really hope that this decision will be revisited.
Anyone who closes his eyes to the past is blind to the present.
How can an organization that is funded by the taxpayers dare to show its disrespect to the people in such a way?
KTvG is a scammer and a liar. He is not even able to admit his offences, he is still denying his intends with reagard to his “Ph.D.”. He is also responisible for a rediculous draft law in Germany that would have ment censorship a la China to the internet – and Mrs. Kroes really dares to give such a person the stage for a comeback in the political scene?
This is not acceptable and disgusting, I am finished with “European democracy” – and I am not the only one.
A deeply disappointed citizen.
Thank you very much for choosing Mr. Guttenberg as an “expert” for Internet freedom: it strikingly shows political corruption in the EU making things obvious. Mr. Guttenberg is as predestinated for this job as Mr. Berlusconi would be as the new EU equal opportunity commissioner.
Yes, Mr. Guttenberg has talent: the talent to be born rich, and to be an unconscionable liar. That should be enough for him to do his job: introducing more Internet censorship as he did in Germany by making such a legislative proposal and helping dictators to suppress their people by supporting them with software for Internet censorship and surveillance. Also the latter is not new to him, he is one of the supporters of the export of software and hardware for people’s oppression to, well, “friends” – or at least “good customers”.
Congratulations, you found the perfect man for the job!
Yours,
VB.
Dear Ms. Kroes,
I was really wondering why you choose Mr. Guttenberg. After carefully reviewing the statements of his person and also the activities of his wife in the German television, I come to the conclusion that he is definitely NO expert for internet issues. Although his image is damaged in Germany, he has really no expertise for make clear statement about censorship and technical issues. I strongly encourage you to chose a person from a non-profit organization that provides the knowledge and is credible (like the electronic frontier foundation) or at least a person who is an expert for the effects of the internet to the society and vice versa.
Sincerely Yours
Christian M.
Guttenberg *LOL* ^^
(copy and paste comment)
He has clearly positioned himself on the side of state control over liberty and freedom.
He stands for censorship laws! How can you choose him to promote “no disconnect strategy” versus the governments of other states?
This choice is disgusting.
A deeply disappointed citizen.
Einen gewohnheitsmäßigen und zur Reue unfähigen Lügner als politisch Fähigen zu bezeichnen, ist ja wohl der Gipfel elitärer Selbsterhöhung. Während sich Guttenberg nicht mal auf europäischen Boden zurücktraut, betraut ihn die EU-Bürokratie mit ehrenvollen Ämtern.
Die EU-Kommission scheint es sich zur lieben Gewohnheit gemacht zu haben, von Demokratie zu reden und sie, wo es geht, mit Wort und Tat zu verhöhnen.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
Why do you censor critical comments ?
I am not sure what you mean. For the avoidance of doubt, no critical comments on this blog have been censored.
Some people noticed that their posts “disappeared”
I will investigate whether there have been any technical issues. There is no intention to censor critical comments.
Who can believe that you are really a “Blog Admin”?
I’m not a Blog Admin, but look at my name.
This blog system is really bad. “Great” IT competence …
Mrs Kroes
I congratulate you on your selection of such a well known personality as a consultant for your program ‘no-disconnect’. Just having such a controversial face pinned next to any press releases will raise the readership (at least the hit count), especially in Germany.
However, it makes me unhappy to know that this provides Mr Guttenberg a stepladder back into European politics. Which, of course, reduces the credibility of your ‘noble’ endeavor (pun intended).
How we can trust the EU – in my opinion the EU has Lost with so weak and scary Partner.
Go Back to Amerika you shithead
Es ist sicher sehr unangenehm, wenn man so mit Kritik, Spott und Hohn überschüttet wird, weil man sich vom Karle hat blenden lassen. Das ist wohl auch der Grund, warum Beiträge verschwinden.
Gut, Frau Kroes hat hier Hausrecht, sie kann löschen (lassen) was sie will, ehrlicher wäre es aber, sich der Kritik zu stellen, statt sie verschwinden zu lassen und totzuschweigen.
@M Sollten hier tatsächlich Beiträge gelöscht werden, dann wäre die Ironie kaum mehr auszuhalten.
This decision is ridiculous beyond any level of comprehension and an insult to any actual expert on this topic, any actual scientist out there and especially the German people.
This man is a disgrace, a liar and an impostor. He pirated two thirds of his Thesis and *still* doesn’t admit it, he fought for active censorship in Germany and he hasn’t accomplished anything at all in his political career.
Just in case you missed it: He fought for active censorship in Germany. How can you promote such an ignorant and insidious being to be a representative of Internet Freedom?
It’s ridiculous…
What you mistake as public “interest” in your choice of making the internet-censorship-advocate Mr. Guttenberg a freedom fighter is detestation. Please reconsider. I already reconsidered my attitude towards the EU.
Dear Misses Kroes,
you made a huge mistake picking a known fraud with no competence in the field whatsoever. You say you were looking for a talent, not a saint. The world is curious to know what talents does Mr. Guttenberg have to offer? He has studied laws and helped managing his father’s wealth. He is a typical career driven politician with little to no real life experience, and a failed one at even that. He and his wife are advocating internet filtering. One wonders if you could have made a worse choice.
Madame Kroes, your decision to involve zu Guttenberg will backfire. His reputation in Germany is bad, worst in the internet community. Your own reputation on the web has already suffered because of him — revoke your decision as soon as possible!
Is there any dignity left in Brussels? Not only is Guttenberg an enemy of freedom of speech. His wife Stephanie zu Guttenberg is involved with an organization that instrumentalizes abused children and discredits the internet to gain publicy. In which world are you living? You should be ashamed of yourself!
Non mais, c’est du délire !? Vous avez sérieusement désigné un imposteur et menteur notoire comme conseiller pour votre stratégie « No Disconnect » ? Pour quoi faire exactement ? C’est du cabotinage de haut vol ! J’attends ce que vous ferez ensuite, peut-être engager Dominique Strauss-Kahn comme responsable à la condition féminine ?
Ridicule !
Petition: zu Guttenberg muss die Europäische Kommission verlassen
Petition: zu Guttenberg must leave the European Commission
http://www.petitions24.com/petition_zu_guttenberg_muss_die_europaische_kommission_verlassen
More to come…
We do not forgive. We do not forget.
I think we better should use
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/de/00533cec74/Petitions.html
That is right, but unfortunately, the EU doesn’t offer an e-petition facility yet, so that people can easily sign via internet. However, someone could take the burden to make a manual petition to the EU and maybe quote the petition running at petitions24.com.
Your choice to Mr. Guttenberg is as valid as the pope choosing a adult movie actor as expert for abstinence…
Good choice only in terms of visibility in the media, but damaging the cause of what your endeavour should be.
In this cold winter nights, its always good to see mercifulness and charity given even to the lowest and sleaziest failed former ministers. Amen.
But think twice: this decision might ruin your reputation sooner as you think.
Dear Ms. Kroes,
I am one more person appalled by your choice of Mr. zu Guttenberg as your adviser. I subscribe in particular to hp lehofers view. There really are enough talented AND qualified AND morally flawless jobless people in Europe for this high profile position. Please choose somebody else.
Groetjes.
Of what “talent” are you speaking?
Didnt you know, what you do by appointing such a man? Dont you care for his bad reputation? Seems you are very far away from the european citizens.
Maybe you wanted attention. Now you have attention. So people are looking and feel like an a trash-movie. And your own reputation is gone.
The most sad aspect in this story for me as an European ist that the mistrust into the polticians of Bruxelles is more than justified.
Expect us!
Dear Ms. Kroes,
until your decision to work together with Mr. Guttenberg I respected you as a very talented and respectfull person. I was shocked that you now want to work with someone known fraud with definitely no competence. Mr. Guttenberg may have very good connections in the USA but he does not even live in Europe. How should he support you this way? There are so much talented people in Europe who does not copy & paste to get publicity and might. Mr. Guttenberg worked badly as a politican in Germany and even his recent book is a shame for every German. Check the Amazon reviews to get an idea of waht people think about his “book”.
Furthermore Mr. Guttenberg does not have enough character to stand up for a free internet because of his connections to the USA. He will never act against the USA which rules the internet like a dictator.
I hope you revoke your decision as soon as possible. If not, neither you nor Mr. Guttenberg respect the will of me and a lot of free European people.
Did nobody tell you, this Baron is a proven lobbyist for the sec industry, the agencies and a handful of political bloggers? That’s fine with me.
But a member of CSIS on such an influential position in Brussels – ?
Neelie, wake up!
Mr Guttenberg hasn’t even grown up, otherwise he knew how to handle his mistakes.
What a choice.. perish the thought.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
What are the big experiences from KTG, you talked about?
-as an author <=he is a liar (see his dissertation, see other articles from him)
-as a bussiness man <=he lied, he was a trainee
-his Dr. title <= a lie
-perfect head of 2 ministries in Germany <=both were glad, when he left
-as a accepted member of his party CSU <=they don’t want him back
-the “wunderkind” politician of the SPIEGEL and ZEIT <= read the forums & blogs from today …
In Germany there are rumors that he will start a new party – a bit more to the right of the CDU/CSU, a bit more conservative, a bit more demagogic …
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
I have never wrote your name in any article about politics, internet or EU before. Next time, when I read you name in one of these topics, I will just throw the newspaper/journal into the garbage …
Whats the price? How much he paid?
Was teuer war es? Was hat er dafür bezahlt?
Please note, a response to the comments raised on this announcement has just been published on the blog: http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/no-disconnect-response-issue/ (in German at top, English lower down)
Whats the price? How much he paid?
Wie teuer war es? Was hat er dafür bezahlt?
no talent, no expertise, not living in the EU, no honour….. so why exactly did he get the job?
that is called Nepotism! (for a fellow conservative)
Where can i find data about his travel expenses?
Wie soll ein ausgewiesener Lügner und Plagiator wie Herr Gutenberg die EU repräsentieren können?
Wie soll ein Selbstdarsteller und Lügenbaron Glaubwürdigkeit erlangen?
Wie soll ein Mensch, der vielfach populistisch Internet Nutzer und Überwachungsgegner diffamiert hat, die Diffamierung, Kontrolle und Überwachung im Internet in absolutistischen Staaten anprangern oder reduzieren?
Ein Lügner, Fälscher, Copyright-Dieb ohne Einsicht in seine Schuld ist imo völlig ungeeignet, irgendeine Position in Deutschland oder der EU zu vertreten. Schließlich vertritt er damit auch mich. Und ich wll nicht von einem Lügenbaron vertreten werden.
Und noch eins:
Wer diesen Mann, Lügner und Copyrightbetrüger beruft, damit er offiziell Positionen der EU darstellt und vertritt, deren Bürger ich bin, für die ich Steuern zahle, wird damit genau so unglaubwürdig, wie der Lügenbaron. Die EU wird durch diesen Repräsentaten genau so unglaubwürdig, wie Herr zu Gutenberg.
Dear Mrs. Kroes,
which qualification for an open internet does a man as dishonest as G. bring along. He is a liar, and, he shouted at those who just revealed his lies.
But it may well be that your understanding of “freedom” is different from the understanding of a netizen.
I suggest you better look for a honest and suitable person and not a liar who has no regret for what he did. On top of that, all he began had finally be done by someone else.
We have deserved better value for our taxes.
Best regrets (no type mismatch)
cityzen
Seems to be true that all the losers get a job in the EU Comissions.
Please get rid of Guttenberg ASAP.
The choice of Guttenberg shows the moral bankruptcy of the self styled EU Elite and we can only hope that these corrupt tainted sycophants will be washed away by the history. You’re a complete disgrace to the idea of the EU.
Mrs. Kroes,
beside that Guttenbergs main qulification seems to be promoting himself and copy the work of others and sell it as its own your decission is in a technical view as wise as fucking for virginit. Or to say it with the words of Max Liebermann:
„Ich kann gar nicht soviel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte.“
Herzlichen Glückwunsch zu so einem Berater.
Guttenberg hat als Minister Gesetze zur Einschränkung der Freiheit im Netz mit getragen. Seine Frau setzte sich aktiv in Fernsehsendungen für Netzsperren ein. Der Mann hat die Bevölkerung arglistig und vorsätzlich getäuscht. Das ist wirklich der geeignete Ratgeber für Internetfreiheit.
Wer so handelt, gehört nicht auf so einen Posten!
Merkt niemand, dass die US-Lobby einen Strohmann auf den Posten hebt?
Werden sie diesen Graf Xerox so schnell wie möglich los!
Congratulations for getting such a consultant.
While beeing a Minister in the german ministry Guttenberg voted for several laws limiting the free internet. His wife promoted actively net lockings in german TV. Guttenberg hocused the people willfully with his copied “Dr.” That is really the best consultant for a free internet.
Such a guy has no place in such a job.
Does nobody notice the US lobby helping a nominee into a position of power?
Get rid of this “Lord Copy” as soon as possible.
Demission. Jetzt!
It would be important to provide technological tools that empower anti-censorship and allow the diffusion of information.
We are running the GlobaLeaks project, an opensource whistleblowing platform with anonymity and anti-censorship functionalities.
It would be very relevant and valuable if EU would provide some r&d financing of GlobaLeaks Project.
Thanks
http://globaleaks.org
Ok, seems interesting. But – what do you think about the new advisor of Mrs. Kroes – Guttenberg?
Its a shame for the EU
Leute, was erwartet Ihr? Die Dame und ihre Mitarbeiter haben von IT so viel Ahnung wie der Herr zu Guttenberg. Das passt doch wunderbar …
Die Kompetenz der Kommissarin für die Digitale Agenda kann man daran sehen, dass sie weder https auf die Reihe kriegen noch ihr Blog-System im Griff haben. Jeder kann unter dem Namen “Blog Admin” Beiträge abschicken, dabei sollte das wohl eher für die Mitarbeiter reserviert sein. Zumindest scheinbar offizielle Verlautbarungen hier werden unter dem Namen abgesetzt.
Mittlerweile löschen sie die Beiträge mit dem Namen entweder gleich oder sie ändern nachträglich den Namen auf Anonymous, aber selbst vor der Löschung sieht man den Beitrag noch mit dem Hinweis “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Die löschen das also wohl echt von Hand statt dem System einmal zu erklären, dass es den Namen nicht zu akzepieren hat.
Was soll man bei so viel geballter Inkompetenz denn anderes erwarten als die Berufung des Betrügers und Lügners “Karl Theodor”?
…Talking about human rights, I got a little hint:
There is an exciting documentary project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWaaK0fDJA
A film crew accompanies a human rights seminar for young adults from Belarus, Germany and Ukraine, where the participants get the necessary know-how to realize human rights campaigns.
The documentary will show the progress of the project and portraits the generation, their living conditions in Central and Eastern Europe, and the limitations they have to face.
The Project urgently needs financial support to finish the project. Here you can support it: http://startnext.de/en/speak-up
I would be glad if you reblog this…
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Wo wir grad bei Menschenrechten sind, ein kleiner Hinweis:
Es gibt da ein spannendes Dokumentarfilmprojekt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWaaK0fDJA
Ein Filmteam begleitet ein MenschenrechtsSeminar für junge Erwachsene aus Belarus, Deutschland und der Ukraine, in dem die TeilnehmerInnen das nötige Know-How bekommen um Menschenrechtskampagnen umzusetzen.
Der Dokumentarfilm soll den Projektverlauf dokumentieren, der Teilnehmer-Generation ein Gesicht geben und zeigen unter welchen Umständen sie in Zentral- und Osteuropa lebt, diskutiert und welche Begrenzungen sie umgibt.
Es wird noch dringend finanzielle Unterstützung benötigt um das Projekt fertig stellen zu können. Hier kann man es unterstützen: http://startnext.de/speak-up
Übers weiterbloggen würde ich mich freuen…
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And still the EU fumbles in embracing a credible strategy, I’m betting next year will be very interesting for some countries in the Union. Curious to see which ones make it safely to 2014.
There are so much talented people in Europe who does not copy & paste to get publicity and might. He worked badly as a politican in Germany and even his recent book is a shame for every German. Check the reviews to get an idea of how people think about his “book”.